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April 4-6, 2025

Word of South

The Road to Now Podcast

One afternoon in 2006, Bob Crawford and Ben Sawyer sat down in a Detroit coffee shop to talk history. Their discussion ended when Bob had to leave to play a show with his band, The Avett Brothers, but the conversation never stopped. In the years that followed, Bob’s band became one of the most celebrated musical groups in the country, and Ben went from graduate student to a professional historian. In 2016, their roads converged again, this time in the basement of Nashville’s Bridgestone Arena, where they recorded the first episode of The Road to Now.

Since then, Bob and Ben have spoken with some of today’s great thinkers – from award-winning historians to entertainment legends to prominent politicians – to learn more about how the past shapes the present. They’ve recorded 300 episodes, joined the lineup on SiriusXM’s POTUS 124, and built an incredible base of listeners. They’ll be taping a show at this year’s Word of South, where they’ll be joined by the author and political commentator Jonah Goldberg. You can listen to The Road to Now with Bob Crawford & Ben Sawyer on your favorite podcast player and weekends on SiriusXM 124. Learn more about their show at